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Hillary vs Obama: What’s Christian Fascist To Do?

Filed By Storm Bear | January 09, 2008 9:24 AM | comments

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Sometimes when I walk down to the local redneck corner store, some of the things I hear from the patrons make me cringe. (I really need to STOP supporting the local economy if this is what I have to suffer through) Today was no different. Here is the money quote:

I can't believe we have to vote for Hillary to keep the nigger out of the White House.

This comes from the same redneck patron I blogged about last year who believes all Arabs need to be killed "Auschwitz style."

There was some discussion by the punditry last night wondering since the vote in Iowa was public and New Hampshire was private - is a Hillary win in NH evidence of racism? Well, in some corners of the country that is a true statement.

If there is anything we have learned from Bill Clinton's administration, it is that the Religious Right hates Hillary with a blind vengeance. So much for peace and love. I don't think that hatred has disappeared at all. But I am a believer of karma and you know, this election must be killing the hate-mongers. On one hand you have a candidate who is black and the other candidate is Hillary. When both candidates are objects of your hatred, scorn and ridicule, what do you do? How do you decide? Who do you hate most?

Say what you will about Hillary and here "emotional episode" I think that strategy worked (and of course, the media rode it like a mule). However, Hillary can't do that again. You can only use the "crying card" once. After that, it gets real old, real quick.

In the delegate count (the thing that really matters in the primaries) Obama is still in the lead and Hillary is in a very close second, but Edwards is still in there with a SOLID third place with just 7 delegates away from overcoming Obama. During the live threads on Daily Kos, I saw calls from the Obama supporters demanding Edwards quit NOW. You must be kidding? Why on Earth would Edwards quit now? He may be a king (or queen) maker and he may still win. This election is shaping up to be different. It just might be that all the states will finally have a voice in the election. With the season front-loaded with a lot of primaries and Tsunami Tuesday just weeks away, who knows what will happen. One thing I do know, the pundits are clueless. I do not believe they (cough, Russert, cough) are used to critical thinking.

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It's worth remembering that Bill Clinton used a second place finish in NH to help propel himself to the nomination, and then to the Presidency. Consider the states coming up next, Nevada, where one of the state's most powerful unions is expected to endorse Obama today, and South Carolina, where half of the voters are African-American.

Also worth remembering is that while Hillary barely won the state vote percentage, she and Obama split most of the state's delegates evenly, gaining nine each. In practical reality, the NH primary was a tie between Obama and Clinton. Currently, Obama still leads the delegate count with 25 delegates, followed by Hillary with 24, and Edwards with 18.

It's when we get to the "winner take all" states that things will get really interesting.

Hmmm, that is interesting.

Actually, isn't the next primary Michigan, where Obama and Edwards aren't on the ballot but Hillary is? I think that means she wins, unless Michigan people really love the K-man or something.

I think that's the culinary union that was going to endorse Obama. I don't know how the numbers are in SC now, but Hill was doing better there a few months ago when I last looked. Of course, it could all change in about a day. Look at NH. (and SC is about half female as well).

I think they've positioned it in a way that they're all going to be viable going into Feb 5.

And I agree, Edwards is in it till the convention. He's running to win, not to make a statement, and he has no reason to quit just yet.

Alex: The MI primary is only for the Repugs. The Dem primary in MI is later, I think around Super Tuesday.

Rebecca: Totally agree.

Storm: I almost commented on your anti-Hillary cartoon the other day simply because this is exactly what I expected in NH. Obama was going to get a bump in NH coming out of IA, but it wasn't going to be enough to 1) overcome the love the Clintons have in NH and 2) overcome the racism that still plagues even the most northern of the Northern States in the Union.

I pretty much think everyone WANTED Hillary's campaign to be cooked more than it really is. Americans, while they like a good optimist, tend to vote more as pragmatists. Hillary, as Kerry did last time, has been running a very pragmatic campaign. The unspoken message coming from her campaign is this: Fine, flirt with Hope, hang out with Dreams for a while, but when Reality sets in, I'll still be here.

She has been running the whole time as an incumbent. There's a danger to it - as we saw in Iowa, but I think anyone who tries to write her off before Super Tuesday is an idiot. There is no way she'll bow out before Super Tuesday, and there's a good chance she'll not bow out until the convention. Could be that no one reaches the magic 2200 delegates necessary. Could be that Obama gets taken out by a crazed hate group. If Hillary is as nasty and shrewd as all her naysayers make her out to be, she has to be calculating the odds that someone is gonna try take out the first African-American presidential candidate. Hell, it's probably just as likely they'll try to take her out if she gets the nod.

Regardless, 1 caucus (and now 1 primary) is way too soon to be naysaying on any of the top 3. The ONLY thing you can infer from Iowa and New Hampshire is this: the top 3 have been confirmed. That's it. The real test won't come until Super Tuesday. And now it's Super Duper Tuesday because so many more states have primaries that day than before.

It is what it is and this is how we elect our presidents - as crazy as it may seem. And you just can't count on IA and NH as bellwethers -it's more myth than fact that they predict who wins.


MI's Dem primary is next Tuesday. Obama and Edwards aren't on the ballot. DNC said they're stripping MI of delegates, but fat chance that'll stick.

Plus it wasn't just that people wanted to think that Clinton would lose NH - both Rasmussen and Gallup had her in the double digits behind Obama as late as the 6.