Mercedes Allen

Christian Activist Asks If Rapture 'False Prophet' Should Be Executed

Filed By Mercedes Allen | May 24, 2011 1:00 PM | comments

Filed in: Fundie Watch, Politics
Tags: Canada, Christian Nationalism, false Christians, Harold Camping, Maurice Vellacott, rapture, rapture prophecy, Timothy Bloedow

noapologies.jpgWhen he's not working as a Legislative Assistant for Conservative Member of Parliament Maurice Vellacott, Timothy Bloedow is the driving force behind Canada's Christian Nationalist weblog No Apologies and Christian Governance, where he advocates for ideologically-run government.

There is no such thing as neutrality. Superficial thinking has confused peace, tolerance, pluralism, multiculturalism and similar ideas with neutrality. But there is no such thing as neutrality.

... The mission of ChristianGovernance is to teach and train Christians to understand the Biblical worldview as well as competing worldviews, and to help Christians translate this understanding into a faithful lifestyle and a compelling witness in this world.

In light of Harold Camping's failed rapture prophecy, Bloedow appears to call for Camping's execution as a false prophet.

Woe To False Prophets

In "Should Harold Camping be executed as a false prophet?" Bloedow (or Rod Taylor, or David Krayden, or Larry Bray, or Tom Bartlett, or the Freedom 55 Financial / London Life salesman, but usually if there's no attribution, then it's posted by Bloedow or his son) writes:

The Bible pronounces capital punishment as the penalty for those who prophesy falsely in the name of God. Harold Camping has done this twice now, prophesying the end of the world or judgment day, most recently for Saturday, May 21st, as anyone who has a TV, radio or computer probably knows.

He then quotes Harold Camping's claims of being a prophet and Deuteronomy 18:20-22 to muse that (as the title of his post says) Camping could be executed as a false prophet.

(If the page disappears, I have the screenshot on my blog)

Of course, Mr. Bloedow could be speaking figuratively. But on a website that calls for a literal interpretation of the Bible to be literally enacted as law and social policy, and where there are certainly people of that mind among the readership, failing to make that clear would be a serious omission. You never know who is on the other end of the keyboard, and bloggers (especially those who expect to be taken seriously as journalists or advocates) have a responsibility to be clear. And it's not like there's a total absence of people who actually call for literal executions in Jesus' name.

Tolerating Intolerance

Don't get me wrong -- if Mr. Bloedow is critical of Harold Camping's Rapture-Is-Coming fundraising scheme, that's cool. We don't often spend enough effort addressing the wingnut ideas in our own camps. For myself, blogging is a luxury that I can't often afford, so I don't always have time to call out ideas from the left, such as questions about whether we as a society should "tolerate the intolerant." If we are not balanced and consistent in our approach, then we are lending credence when others question our ethics and morals. In the meantime, Bloedow might want to consider writing about the dangers of interpreting the Bible too literally.

Which leaves us with the spectacle of one speaker on the religious right making a case for the execution of another speaker on the religious right. Is this the kind of Christian Governance Bloedow is talking about? That our government should put to death those who violate any of the executable offenses found in the Bible? This is a book that calls for the murder of gay and lesbian people, brides who don't have an intact hymen on their wedding night, children who disobey their parents, anyone who engages in premarital sex, the children of one's enemy, and anyone who opposes Christian governance... among others.

This is, of course, the problem with Christian governance. If we are to follow the extreme solutions taken directly from the Bible, then we are talking about eye-for-an-eye solutions that stand or fall depending solely on the value judgments of whoever gets to selectively interpret scriptures that often conflict, rather than based on real understandings of individual situations, the ability to apply mercy if it's called for, and the ability to apply less barbaric solutions in a less barbaric world.

Who Gets To Decide Which Is The Worse Sin?

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. Is calling a ban on DDT "worse than tactical genocide" of African peoples, also bearing false witness? Or calling the existence of national parks "hostility to private property rights?" I'm not really comfortable with the BC HRT ruling against Guy Earle either (although I don't know all the details), but somehow calling a Human Rights Commission and human rights legislation a "statue to Hitler" seems more than a little dishonest, too.

And if the Presbyterian faith is now considered a false faith by Christian Nationalists because of a decision to allow ordination of LGBT people, are Presbyterian ministers to be treated similarly to Mr. Camping? How about Charles McVety, who claims he was pulled off the air by the CRTC and CBSC, when in fact it was a Christian television network that made the decision following a reprimand (for lying, no less)? Who gets to decide?

This also illustrates a point I'd made earlier about how Christian Nationalism (not to be confused with all Christianity) is often a loose coalition of people of varying faiths who often don't get along together well and don't recognize each other as speaking with any kind of Biblical authority.

I certainly wouldn't call for Mr. Bloedow's death, and wouldn't call for him to be silenced either. And that's not just because he gives me such rich material. Personally, I wouldn't want government to have that kind of power, regardless of who it was aimed at. The fact that execution is even seen as something that's on the table is indication enough that Christian governance is something to be wary of.

(Crossposted to DentedBlueMercedes)

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There are loads of false prophets about. This particular guy obviously has an agenda of his own, and here we see that he made a "miscalculation" and that we have another 5 months on planet Earth before those of us who are believers in Christ Jesus (I'm one of them)will be caught up. Well, of course, the man is a fool, and though there has been catastrophe after catastrophe of late, Jesus told us that "no man knows" the timing of God.

Should Camping be executed for being stupid? Of course not - once again, the Bible tells us that punishment is meted out by God, so we need to let sleeping dogs lie and let yapping dogs spout and let God have His way with this false prophet.

As anticipated, the page has now been pulled down. Now, if the Mr. Bloedow would like to clarify his stance on executions and fully literal application of extreme scripture through law, I'll be happy to withdraw anything that might further embarrass him on the matter.

twinkie1cat | May 24, 2011 5:28 PM

The execution issue is under the Old Covenant, the law. Christians are under grace. Jesus did away with the old covenant when he died and said, "The Old has passed away. All things have become new." In Old Testament times a prophet had to do a prophecy that came true before he was accepted as a prophet. Finally, Jesus opposed the death penalty so Christians are not supposed to do that anymore.

Killing him? No, that's too far. But he should go to jail as a conman and be forced to give away those millions he made to the people he defrauded.

Kill him? No way that stench would cause the Rapture! Let it die naturally! Then the Bigotry and hate coming from him will end also!