Bil Browning

Alan Grayson New Occupy Wall Street Spokesperson?

Filed By Bil Browning | October 09, 2011 5:30 PM | comments

Filed in: Politics
Tags: Alan Grayson, Bill Maher, Occupy Wall Street, PJ O'Rourke

The grassroots Occupy Wall Street gatherings have shared the duties of speaking to press as representatives of the people. They do have designated folks, but the mass media has tried to paint the protests as leaderless and incoherent.

Former Florida Representative and progressive darling Alan Grayson accurately explains what the protestors are seeking on Bill Maher's political talkfest and fellow guest PJ O'Rourke tries to zing him with a one-liner about becoming the gathering's spokesperson.

Grayson owns him with one of the best comebacks in recent political discourse. Check it out after the break.



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Fabulous! I love his goofy rainbow tie, juxtaposed with the seriousness and intensity of his comments. I love his quickness with the stats. I love his eloquence. And I love the last photo, both for Bill Mahr's body language and the look of defeat on O'Rourke's face. It's like he (O'Rourke) is realizing something deep and sad. Wow, what a moment.

I don't know PJ O'Rourke, but it isn't surprising that the establishment response to this protest has mostly been: "I hate hippies!"

PJ O'Rourke is a self-proclaimed "Libertarian", a former editor of the National Lampoon, a member of the Cato Institute, and a political satirist and author. His views on the "issues" vary widely, but usually have a "conservative" (real, not tea-tard) bent. In all I'm a little surprised that he made this comment, and then again I'm not.

Considering those articles of his that I've read, there are a lot of points he's made that I heartily agree with - and there are a huge chunk that I'd like to slap him up side the head for. I wish I could have been on stage at this moment, and witnessed the exchange - my one word response would have been "SNAP!!!"

Yeah remember reading O'Rourke's stuff in National Lampoon, back when he was still funny. PJ O'Rourke, Kelsey Grammer, and Dennis Miller teach us what should be obvious to all:

Conservatives just aren't funny, plain and simple. Too much elitism and bigotry for any genuine humor to survive within that context.

Here's a few examples of what I mean...

Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.
P. J. O'Rourke

To that I say "amen!"

Even very young children need to be informed about dying. Explain the concept of death very carefully to your child. This will make threatening him with it much more effective.
P. J. O'Rourke

Only a parent, or teacher, can truly appreciate that statement. Having two daughters and five grandchildren, I find it very wise, sage, spot-on advice... not to mention funny as hell, in a sarcastic sort of way.

Feeling good about government is like looking on the bright side of any catastrophe. When you quit looking on the bright side, the catastrophe is still there.
P. J. O'Rourke

Kind of reminds me about pissing yourself in black pants... without the feeling of relief. There's one flaw that will never be corrected in human governance - the humans.

Humans are the only animals that have children on purpose with the exception of guppies, who like to eat theirs.
P. J. O'Rourke

Again, you'd have to be a parent to fully appreciate this. Ranks right up there with my Grama's "Humans are amusing critters... I think I'll go eat one."

In our brief national history we have shot four of our presidents, worried five of them to death, impeached one and hounded another out of office. And when all else fails, we hold an election and assassinate their character.
P. J. O'Rourke

I can't speak to O'Rourke's motivation for this, but there are points which make it a loaded statement. Rather like pointing a Gatling gun at a crowd, in the hope you might hit the one axe-murderer in the lot. For example, and in the same over-simplified vein: we impeached one because he lied, committed a felony, and abused his authority. We hounded the other out of office because he couldn't keep his dick in his pants, and we're all a bunch of hypocrites when it comes to sex.

Let's reintroduce corporal punishment in the schools - and use it on the teachers.
P. J. O'Rourke

Dead wrong on both counts. First, NOBODY spanks my kids but ME. Corporal punishment never belonged in a school and never will. Second, if anyone deserves to be "punished" for the mess we call a school system it is those who changed it from an institution of education into an excuse to have a football team.

The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.
P. J. O'Rourke

There isn't much I can argue with in that statement, but it belays the point that politicians are generally a bunch of self-serving, greedy narcissists. You expect brilliance and responsibility from that?

The good news is that, according to the Obama administration, the rich will pay for everything. The bad news is that, according to the Obama administration, you're rich.
P. J. O'Rourke

Here's the one instance I could find where O'Rourke took the easy way out and spouted the Teatard party line. When 90% of the nation's wealth and resources are controlled by 1% of the population that constitutes a gross imbalance that will cause the economic health of that nation to implode with disastrous consequences. Nothing in the Obama administration's tax proposals even hints at "the rich will pay for everything", but it does make a (half-hearted) attempt to make them pay their fair share. I'm the first to admit that I'm not an Obama sycophant, but this statement is just plain lazy and a bold-faced lie.

PJ is so tired and 'over.' Pretty much, his involvement with the National Lampoon ended my love affair with that publication.

Now, Alan Grayson... ? what's not to love!!

Bill Perdue Bill Perdue | October 11, 2011 3:36 AM

Four years of deepening depression, mass unemployment and soaring poverty have created a towering rage in working class communities and among youth.

For all of its problems with misleadership by students and liberals the Occupation movement is spreading like wildfire. "The website Occupy Together counts 865 participating cities, including solidarity rallies on every continent save Antarctica." Alternet 10 08 2011

It's clear that the Obama administrations claims that the recession was over in 2009 are as bogus as Bush's claim on the carrier deck that the Iraq War was over in 2003. Wages are down at double the amount since Obama announced that the recession is over. He not only lied, he mislabeled. Recessions can be turned around, but depressions can't and this depression is only going to get worse, much worse. That will occur sooner rather than later when European banks begin falling like dominoes.

The entry of some unions and, independently, large numbers of union member into the nationwide demonstrations validates the Occupation movement and gives it much needed strength. That'll be needed because it’s becoming clear that the 'authorities' are getting worried by its spread and the depths of the rage surfacing in these mass actions.

The depression that created Madison and now the Occupation movement can't be solved by either party because their root cause is capitalism itself. Both parties are last ditch defenders of capitalism. The upshot of that is that elections won't have any effect on the crises except to polarize people even more and make them more demanding.

As soon as the elections are over huge numbers of newly radicalized leftist workers and students will go into opposition to whichever party wins. More than ever elections and an electoral strategy are meaningless. The time when millions would fall for excuses and false promises of hope and change are over.
The question is now one of initiating campaigns to create a workers government to prosecute the criminals who attacked our standard of living, attacked our unions, attacked immigrant and imported workers, created and artificially maintain massive unemployment and underemployment (holding at 16% for over two years) growing homelessness and poverty rates that now include 1 in 6 people.

Madison and the Occupation movement, in spite of misleadership, are just the tip of the iceberg. There is a rage building among working people that's finding expression in mass movements for change that'll shake the rulers of the country to their knees and give us the chance to replace their damaged and deranged government with a decent government.

Struggles like that happened from 1775 to 1783 when we replaced royalist governments and again from 1859 to 1865 when we dug a grave for the Confederacy and buried the slaveocracy. A repetition, from a historical point of view, is long overdue.

Bill I heartily agree with your statement: "More than ever elections and and electoral strategy are meaningless." I've said for years that until the electoral college is eliminated, and every ballot contains a "None Of The Above" choice we will never be "the land of the free..."