Barney Frank sat down with Washington Blade to talk about his career in Congress. During his interview, Barney had plenty to say on the LGBT movement and activism.
On activists and bloggers holding Congress and President Obama accountable:
Frank: We had a transgender inclusive hate crimes bill and a repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell.' I think that's pretty good. I wish we had done ENDA. But part of the problem was the community refused to accept the kind of compromise that Massachusetts did. If we had that - one of the things the [House] leadership was worried about was ... what are we going to pass the bill for if some of the people who are going to be the beneficiaries are attacking us? So what's the point of that? People are holding us to a higher standard? Whose standard? Where did you become the standard setter? What we got, as I said, was the president coming out against DOMA and very importantly elevating the level of scrutiny that's needed for ending discrimination. And we got hate crimes through and we got 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repealed. I think that's pretty good.
Blade: Many in the community agree with that assessment.
Frank: In general, the people who are complaining -- well, what's their remedy? They're complaining, what do they want, sympathy? If they're saying they wish we had more, I do too. Are they saying that's a reason not to be supporting Barack Obama? That's political suicide. The next president will probably appoint another Supreme Court justice or two. I don't see how people can say, oh, we care about the lawsuit for Prop 8, we care about the DOMA lawsuit but let's make sure that a homophobe will appoint the next Supreme Court justice.
On trans activists:
Blade: The trans bill in Massachusetts became an issue to some--
Frank: An issue to whom?
Blade: Some of the more outspoken trans activists, who say they are outraged because it includes employment, housing and other protections but not public accommodations protections.
Frank: No, I would say ridiculous trans activists who are outraged, who would prefer there be no rights for employment than this. That is an example of their political stupidity. They may be very bright about other things. I don't see how anybody can see that as a rational argument right now, nor, by the way, do I think it represents five percent of our community. I don't even think it represents a majority of the transgender people. How can it possibly be - and by the way, these people don't know history, because I will tell you that Martin Luther King and the other civil rights leaders would not for a second have hesitated to accept that deal. They were constantly moving toward making things better but those are both examples, I think, of the political maturity of our community - of knowing how to go about it. And I think as a result we are on the verge - well, by the way, we did the same thing with 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell.' We didn't abolish 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell.' We didn't ban statutorily discrimination against us in the military. We banned the requirement that we discriminate. And there was some, 'Oh, gee, how do you know they maybe will not do it fairly?' I think we are on the verge of a very complete victory within a dozen years or so. That is, I think the country is supportive. It gets better generationally. I don't think people will be allowed to marry in every state, unfortunately, 10 years from now. I think people in those states where a majority of people live will be allowed to marry and will have full federal rights.
After reading this article, I'm very curious to know what your opinion on Barney's answers. Do you agree or disagree with his assessment of the movement? I actually agree with most of his views. I do believe we get in our own way when it comes to our methods of activism.
But please share, I would love to hear your opinions.